New York 1824 Electoral College

Office:: Electoral College (Federal)
Title:: Elector
Jurisdiction:: Federal

Label:: New York 1824 Electoral College
Date:: 1824
State:: New York
Type:: Legislative
Iteration:: First Ballot
Office/Role:: Electoral College/Elector
Electors:: Pierre A. Barker, Darius Bently, Micah Brooks, Timothy H. Porter, Samuel Russell, Joseph Sibley, Nathan Thompson, Richard Blauvelt, Eleazer Burnham, Alexander J. Coffin, Phineas Coon, Clark Crandall, Edward B. Crandall, Elisha Dorr, James Drake, John Drake, Samuel Hicks, William Lathrop, Benjamin Moors, Chester Patterson, Ebenezer Sage, Solomon Saint John, Edward Savage, Azariah Smith, Benjamin Smith, Abraham Stagg, Elisha B. Strong, Isaac Sutherland, Issac Sutherland, William Townsend, William Walsh, Marinus Willet, Francis Granger, Benjamin Bailey, Abraham Bloodgood, Rudolph Bummer, Heman Cady, William Clarke, Rufus Crane, Edward Doyle, Henry Eckford, Edward Ely, Elisha Foot, James Greene, Freeborn G. Jewett, James Lansing, John Lansing, Jr., John MacCarty, William MacFarland, II, Abraham Morrel, Henry Rutgers, Alexander Sheldon, Jacob Shook, Samuel Smith, Reuben Streeter, Tredwell Scudder, Wing Taber, Isaac Vermilyea, Joshua Whitney, Jeremiah Whipple, Moses Younglove, Samuel Barton, Alexander Coffin, Jr., Peter W. Snyder, Thomas J. Davies, Philo Orton, John Taylor, Richard Townley, Lemuel Chipman, Thomas S. Lockwood, George Rosecrantz, Levi Adams

Electors:	Pierre A. Barker [1]	Darius Bently [2]	Micah Brooks [3]	Timothy H. Porter [4]	Samuel Russell [5]	Joseph Sibley [6]	Nathan Thompson [7]	Richard Blauvelt [8]	Eleazer Burnham [9]	Alexander J. Coffin [10]	Phineas Coon [11]	Clark Crandall [12]	Edward B. Crandall [13]	Elisha Dorr [14]	James Drake [15]	John Drake [16]	Samuel Hicks [17]	William Lathrop [18]	Benjamin Moors [19]	Chester Patterson [20]	Ebenezer Sage [21]	Solomon Saint John [22]	Edward Savage [23]	Azariah Smith [24]	Benjamin Smith [25]	Abraham Stagg [26]	Elisha B. Strong [27]	Isaac Sutherland [28][29]	Issac Sutherland [30][31]	William Townsend [32]	William Walsh [33]	Marinus Willet [34]	Francis Granger	Benjamin Bailey	Abraham Bloodgood	Rudolph Bummer	Heman Cady	William Clarke	Rufus Crane	Edward Doyle	Henry Eckford	Edward Ely	Elisha Foot	James Greene	Freeborn G. Jewett	James Lansing	John Lansing, Jr.	John MacCarty	William MacFarland, II	Abraham Morrel	Henry Rutgers	Alexander Sheldon	Jacob Shook	Samuel Smith	Reuben Streeter	Tredwell Scudder	Wing Taber	Isaac Vermilyea	Joshua Whitney	Jeremiah Whipple	Moses Younglove	Samuel Barton	Alexander Coffin, Jr.	Peter W. Snyder	Thomas J. Davies	Philo Orton	John Taylor	Richard Townley	Lemuel Chipman	Thomas S. Lockwood	George Rosecrantz	Levi Adams
Affiliation:	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican	Republican
Presidential Candidate:	William H. Crawford	William H. Crawford	William H. Crawford	William H. Crawford	William H. Crawford	William H. Crawford	William H. Crawford	John Quincy Adams	John Quincy Adams	John Quincy Adams	John Quincy Adams	John Quincy Adams	John Quincy Adams	John Quincy Adams	John Quincy Adams	John Quincy Adams	John Quincy Adams	John Quincy Adams	John Quincy Adams	John Quincy Adams	John Quincy Adams	John Quincy Adams	John Quincy Adams	John Quincy Adams	John Quincy Adams	John Quincy Adams	John Quincy Adams	John Quincy Adams	John Quincy Adams	John Quincy Adams	John Quincy Adams	John Quincy Adams	John Quincy Adams	William H. Crawford	William H. Crawford	William H. Crawford	William H. Crawford	William H. Crawford	William H. Crawford	William H. Crawford	William H. Crawford	William H. Crawford	William H. Crawford	William H. Crawford	William H. Crawford	William H. Crawford	William H. Crawford	William H. Crawford	William H. Crawford	William H. Crawford	William H. Crawford	John Quincy Adams	William H. Crawford	William H. Crawford	William H. Crawford	William H. Crawford	William H. Crawford	William H. Crawford	William H. Crawford	William H. Crawford	William H. Crawford	William H. Crawford	John Quincy Adams	William H. Crawford	John Quincy Adams	John Quincy Adams	John Quincy Adams	John Quincy Adams	John Quincy Adams	John Quincy Adams	John Quincy Adams	John Quincy Adams
Final Result: [35][36][37][38][39][40][41][42]	95	95	95	95	95	95	95	78	78	78	78	78	78	78	78	78	78	78	78	78	78	78	78	78	78	78	78	78	78	78	78	78	77	76	76	76	76	76	76	76	76	76	76	76	76	76	76	76	76	76	76	76	76	76	76	76	76	76	76	76	76	75	75	75	72	59	59	59	58	58	58	57
Legislature	95	95	95	95	95	95	95	78	78	78	78	78	78	78	78	78	78	78	78	78	78	78	78	78	78	78	78	78	78	78	78	78	77	76	76	76	76	76	76	76	76	76	76	76	76	76	76	76	76	76	76	76	76	76	76	76	76	76	76	76	76	75	75	75	72	59	59	59	58	58	58	57

Notes:

[1]Elected.

[2]Elected.

[3]Elected.

[4]Elected.

[5]Elected.

[6]Elected.

[7]Elected.

[8]Elected.

[9]Elected.

[10]Elected.

[11]Elected.

[12]Elected.

[13]Elected.

[14]Elected.

[15]Elected.

[16]Elected.

[17]Elected.

[18]Elected.

[19]Elected.

[20]Elected.

[21]Elected.

[22]Elected.

[23]Elected.

[24]Elected.

[25]Elected.

[26]Elected.

[27]Elected.

[28]Elected.

[29]Of Dutchess County.

[30]Elected.

[31]Of Genesee County.

[32]Elected.

[33]Elected.

[34]Elected.

[35]Only the first 32 candidates were elected. A second ballot was held for the remaining four candidates.

[36]New York, at this time, was one of five other states whose electors were chosen by the legislature. There was pressure on the legislature to relinquish that authority and give to the people the power to select presidential electors by popular vote. "THE ELECTORAL LAW DEFEATED. The New York Statesman of the 16th instant, in speaking of the postponement of the Electoral Bill, which may be considered as equivalent to a rejection, says -"After shuffling and turning in every direction to get rid of it with some show of excuse, a majority of the Senate have at length been compelled to declare by their votes, that the people who elected them are unworthy to be trusted. Let them now go home to their constituents, and learn how they will be received - they will learn that the people have sealed their fate, and resolved never to trust them again. On Wednesday Mr. Cramer moved an amendment to the report of the committee declaring that a law ought to pass, at the present session of the Legislature, giving to the people the choice of electors by general ticket; and the principle was recognized, Yes 16, Noes 15, as follows . After having decided by the above vote that a bill ought to pass in conformity with the demand of the people, a motion was made by Mr. Livingston, and seconded by Mr. Sudam, that the further consideration of the subject should be POSTPONED till the first Monday in November next! And to the astonishment of every man who thought there was such a thing as consistency in legislation, the motion prevailed! Thus, the people are yet longer to be held in thraldom The ayes and noes were as follows . It will be seen the Messrs. MALLORY and WRIGHT were the two Senators, who at the 11th hours, went over against the people. PEOPLE OF NEW YORK! BEHOLD YOUR ENEMIES!!!" Ithaca Journal (Ithaca, NY). March 24, 1824.

[37]"From the Harrison Telegraph. A VOICE FROM THE POLLS!! Extract of a letter from Xenia, Green county, Oct. 13, 1824. 'Yesterday, at an annual election for state officers, the friends of General Jackson proposed that the sense of the voters should be taken on the Presidential question. Acordingly, each individual, when he gave in his ballot, indicated his choice to the sheriff. The result was - For John Quincy Adams, 211, Andrew Jackson 130, Henry Clay 38, William H. Crawford 4. A number of aged men in favour of Mr. Adams, refused to express their sentiments. I think the above a fair specimen of the sentiments of the county at large.' We have to add, that at an officers' muster in the eastern part of this county a short time since, a vote was taken onthe Presidency, which resulted in giving John Quincy Admas 29, Andrew Jackson 27, and Henry Clay 8. Seven of the officers of the regiment, known to be in favour of Mr. Adams absent. This information is given on the very best authority." New-York American (New York, NY). November 4, 1824.

[38]"New York is, as it has been, 'all in the wind.' A majority in the Legislature, was in favor of Mr. Crawford; but the members of that body started upon a desperate adventure, in which they have failed, and their only means of redeeming their political character, in any measure, lies in disposing of the vote of the state in such a way as to keep the election out of Congress. It is highly probable, then, that Jackson will at last receive the vote of new York, as it is next to a certainty that in other States he will be highest in votes." Harrisburg Chronicle. November 15, 1824.

[39]"The Senate having adopted the resolution of the Assembly to proceed immediately to a joint ballot, convened yesterday at 12 o'clock in the Assembly chamber." National Advocate (New York, NY). November 18, 1824.

[40]"The president of the Senate stated that there were 157 votes given in; and that of these there were three blanks; that it required 79 votes to constitute a choice. ... That it appeared that seven electors were chosen by majority of all the members present; and that 26 appeared not to be chosen by the members 'so met together.' Here a very long and warm debate ensued. It was contended on the one had, by Messrs Ogden, Tallmadge, Wheaton and others, that a choice had been made of 32 of the electors, seven having a majority of all the votes, and 25 having a majority of the votes after excluding the blanks....On the other had it was urged by Messrs. Sudan, Wright, Flagg and others, that the question admitted of strong doubt, and required investigation, which it was impossible to determine or go into in a joint capacity. That it could only be done by a calm and deliberate examination of the constitutional and statutory provisions, in their separate capacities as legislative bodies. The president of the Senate did not give a decision on the result of the balloting, but stated that the proper course would be, as in all former cases, for each house, in its separate capacity, to receive the report of its presiding officer, and after having acted upon it meet again in joint ballot and proceed to the choice of such as should be declared to be not chosen. Several motions were made to proceed to a second ballot, but it was impossible to determine the number to be balloted for. .... After a sharp debate, the president of the Senate, accompanied by quorum of the Senate, left the Assembly chamber. A motion was then made to adjourn, which was opposed. It was contended, that the meeting should be adjourned as a joint meeting; and that there was no other mode of coming again together. The speaker said he could not assume the authority to adjourn as a joint meeting. A motion to adjourn The Assembly was put and carried - ayes 58, noes 55." National Advocate (New York, NY). November 18, 1824.

[41]"The Senate passed a resolution on Tuesday, declaring that the 25 electors balloted for on Monday, in the joint meeting of the two houses, and who received 78 votes, were duly elected, and that they would at 12 o'clock, again meet the house in the Assembly chamber, and proceed to the election of four more electors, to complete the list. In the House, the Speaker made a report of the proceedings to joint-meeting of both houses on Monday, whereupon Mr. Hosmer offered a resolution, that those on the ticket of elector, who received 78 votes and upwards, be declared elected. His resolution passed, ayes 117, noes 7." The New-York Statesman (Albany, NY). November 18, 1824.

[42]"A resolution was shortly after received from the Senate, informing that hey had declared the election of 32 electors, who received 78 votes or upward, in joint ballot and that they would immediately meet the Assembly in the Assembly Chamber to proceed to ballot for the remaining four. The resolution was concurred in, ayes 117, noes 2." The New-York Statesman (Albany, NY). November 18, 1824

References:

Ithaca Journal (Ithaca, NY). March 24, 1824.

New-York American (New York, NY). November 4, 1824.

Harrisburg Chronicle (Harrisburg, PA). November 15, 1824.

National Advocate (New York, NY). November 18, 1824.

The New-York Statesman (Albany, NY). November 18, 1824.

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